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1999\09\15@082142 by Wesley Moore (Yallara)

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Hi All,
I have searched the 'net fruitlessly for a Windows font which displays
DOS characters instead of the international characters that most Windows
ones do. I want this because it would make writing DOS C++ programs in
Windows a lot easier, also the source would look right when you printed
it. If anyone knows of such a font I would be most appreciative if you
could pass it onto me of give me some info about it.

Wesley

1999\09\15@083225 by Paulo Soares

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I don't quite understand your reasoning but you can use the font 'MS
LineDraw'. It comes with Word. You can also use 'MS-DOS CP 437'. This
one is a hidden font that goes by the name 'dosapp.fon'.

Best Regards,
Paulo Soares

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1999\09\15@084042 by Wesley Moore (Yallara)

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I haven't come accross either of those on my system. The problem is when I
write a program in windows the extended font appear differently than they
do when the program is run in DOS eg all the window drawing characters.
What do the two fonts you mentioned look like?
Wesley

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Paulo Soares wrote:

> I don't quite understand your reasoning but you can use the font 'MS
> LineDraw'. It comes with Word. You can also use 'MS-DOS CP 437'. This
> one is a hidden font that goes by the name 'dosapp.fon'.
>
> Best Regards,
> Paulo Soares
>
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1999\09\15@200639 by Brian Gracia

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At 07:38 AM 9/15/99 , you wrote:
>I haven't come accross either of those on my system. The problem is when I
>write a program in windows the extended font appear differently than they
>do when the program is run in DOS eg all the window drawing characters.
>What do the two fonts you mentioned look like?
>Wesley


Hello,

The problem may be related to the fact that dos operates at a different
resolution that windows.  Dos is 640x480 and windows is usually 800x600 or
something like that.  Maybe you should try using graphics to do your line
drawing.

My two cents,
VB Programmer
Brian
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1999\09\15@205015 by M. F. LaBoo

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The deal is that for any given font, be it Windows or DOS, there are only
256 possible ASCII characters (8 bits worth).  And generally only the
characters between ASCII(32) and ASCII(128) -- the alphanumeric ones -- are
standardized.  So when you change fonts, the ASCII codes that are used in
the standard DOS font (for example) that draw line/box characters, will be
used for something else -- perhaps characters like ƒ, ‚ or „.

Here's your best bet:  If you can find a Windows font that has line/box
characters, and uses the same ASCII codes as DOS does (and surely there must
be one), then your Windows program will display exactly the same as it does
in DOS.

Alternatively you could take any Win font and map the ASCII codes for its
characters, then send the specific ASCII codes for the desired characters.
The problems with this are, 1)  Most Win fonts don't have the line/box
graphics;  2)  There's no protocol for matching the low- and high-order
ASCII codes to specific extended characters, so even within Windows, if you
change fonts you'll also change the resulting display.

I'll let someone else address the use of bit-mapped or raster graphics if
they feel up to it.   ;-}

bOO

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1999\09\16@002259 by Wesley Moore (Yallara)

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On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, M. F. LaBoo wrote:

> The deal is that for any given font, be it Windows or DOS, there are only
> 256 possible ASCII characters (8 bits worth).  And generally only the
> characters between ASCII(32) and ASCII(128) -- the alphanumeric ones -- are
> standardized.  So when you change fonts, the ASCII codes that are used in
> the standard DOS font (for example) that draw line/box characters, will be
> used for something else -- perhaps characters like É, Ç or Ñ.
In this small paragraph you have solved my problem. The characters above
came out as I would want them too. I'm using a telnet progra to get my
UNIX mail so I just checked the font it was using. Terminal. It appears
this font has all the right characters, to thing I had it all the time...

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1999\09\16@004850 by Mike Werner

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Under Windoze 95 I found a font called MS LineDraw that looks to be what
you're looking for.  Comparing what Character Map shows for that font to
an ASCII chart it appears to match.  If need be, I'll see if I can
figure out how to extract the font file (though that could well take a
few days).
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1999\09\16@010447 by Wesley Moore (Yallara)

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Thanks for your help. I now have MS LineDraw and Terminal both of which
should solve my problem.

Wesley

On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Mike Werner wrote:

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1999\09\16@045956 by ruben

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Hello Wesley,

I had the same problem writing DOS C programs in a DOS window.
On my DOS screen, some line drawing characters for my DOS
menus where replaced with international characters when the
screen where displayed as a window in W95 but not with it
displayed as a full screen (pressing ALT+Enter).

The reason for this was that my DOS environment was set up with
codepage  437 in CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT while W95
used 850 for DOS windows. I don't remember how to find out the
currently used codepage for DOS windows but there is a program
called CHANGECP.EXE that can be used to change the DOS
codepage in W95. This program can be found on the W95
installation CD and also, I think, at microsofts web site.

That worked for me.

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