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2000\01\20@100946 by Ivan Dachev

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I want to know the rome digit specification
I know that
I = 1
V = 5
X = 10
next I'm not sure what is it
for 50 for 100 e.t.

10x in advance



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2000\01\20@101609 by Terry A. Steen

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Try here:

http://www.optonline.com/comptons/ceo/04099_A.html

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2000\01\20@101620 by Rick - Madison Computer

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50 = D
100 = C
1000 = M

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Subject: Hi from Bulgaria those anybody know about Rome Digit


> I want to know the rome digit specification
> I know that
> I = 1
> V = 5
> X = 10
> next I'm not sure what is it
> for 50 for 100 e.t.
>
> 10x in advance

2000\01\20@101954 by Francisco Armenta

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I remember somebodys.

C=100
M=1000
L=50

remember that 9=IX

Francisco

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2000\01\20@104050 by Ivan Dachev

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10x very mutch to all for information


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2000\01\20@110207 by James Paul

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 L=50
 C=100
 M=1000

 If a larger number is preceded by a smaller number, the smaller
 number is subtracted from the larger.  This rule is true after
 100. Less than 100, numbers are additive

 ie MCMLXXXXIX = 1999

       M = 1000
      CM =  900  (1000-100)
   LXXXX =   90  (50+10+10+10+10)
      IX =    9  (X-1)
  ----------------
MCMLXXXXIX 1999

                                    Regards,

                                      Jim
                                      Jim



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2000\01\20@111826 by John Pfaff

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Is it legal to write 1999 as MIM, or are there other silly rules that apply?

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Subject: Re: Hi from Bulgaria those anybody know about Rome Digit


 L=50
 C=100
 M=1000

 If a larger number is preceded by a smaller number, the smaller
 number is subtracted from the larger.  This rule is true after
 100. Less than 100, numbers are additive

 ie MCMLXXXXIX = 1999

       M = 1000
      CM =  900  (1000-100)
   LXXXX =   90  (50+10+10+10+10)
      IX =    9  (X-1)
  ----------------
MCMLXXXXIX 1999

                                    Regards,

                                      Jim
                                      Jim



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2000\01\20@125620 by James Paul

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No, it's not legal.   Yes, silly rules apply.
I'm not sure what the exact wording of the rules
are right off hand, but it seem to me that you can
only (according to the rules) preface a given number
by the next lower order numbers.  ie..you can subtract
50 from 100 (LC) or you can subtract 10 from 100 (XC)
but you can't subtract 5 from 100 (VC) or 1 from 100
(IC).  You have to build Roman Numeral Numbers by order
of magnitude, but the rules are not the same as for
our decimal numbering system.  Also, I believe there are
symbols for numbers greater than 1000 (M), but I can't
recall what they are right off hand either.  Of course,
in my experience, the need for numbers greater than 1999
have not come into use until this year.  But I believe
that 2000 would be MM.  Does this help?

                                      Regards,

                                        Jim



On Thu, 20 January 2000, John Pfaff wrote:

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> Is it legal to write 1999 as MIM, or are there other silly rules that apply?
>
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2000\01\21@021819 by Dr. Imre Bartfai

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Hi,

furthermore
D=500

9=IX, 90=XC, 900=CM

however, for 4 I have seen both IIII and IV. Similarly, 400 can be also
CD or (maybe rather) CCCC. For instance:

1966 can be MCMLXVI or MDCCCCLXVI (the former is the preferred one).

Regards, Imre


On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Francisco Armenta wrote:

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2000\01\21@072158 by paulb

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James Paul wrote:

>   L=50
>   C=100
>   M=1000

>   If a larger number is preceded by a smaller number, the smaller
>   number is subtracted from the larger.  This rule is true after
>   100. Less than 100, numbers are additive

 Nup.  Applies in all decades.  This was our coding exercise some 19
years ago in, let me see, Snobol IIRC.  Don't ask me how I wrote it
though, now!

 Hang on; I do!  It's actually far simpler than it sounds; you use a
10-entry token table for each decade, vectoring into the array {MDCLXVI}
and stepping two per decade.

 Sorry, haven't looked at
http://www.optonline.com/comptons/ceo/04099_A.html yet, but your example
is inconsistent.  Should read as 1999 = MCMXCIX

 i.e.,   M  CM  XC  IX
         1k 900 90   9

 In fact, you might have noticed the marked shortening of this where
used in film credits.  The '80s films were MCMLXXXIX = 1989, while in
say, 1992, it contracted to MCMXCII.

 1990 in fact was MCMXC.  Hey,  I forgot, it's MM already!  Mars rules
(a chocolate joke)!
--
 Cheers,
       Paul B.

2000\01\21@112128 by Morded of Logris

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JP> Is it legal to write 1999 as MIM, or are there other silly rules that apply?

JP> ----- Original Message -----
JP> From: James Paul <KILLspamjimKILLspamspamJPES.COM>
JP> To: <RemoveMEPICLISTTakeThisOuTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU>
JP> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 10:59 am
JP> Subject: Re: Hi from Bulgaria those anybody know about Rome Digit


JP>   L=50
JP>   C=100
JP>   M=1000

JP>   If a larger number is preceded by a smaller number, the smaller
JP>   number is subtracted from the larger.  This rule is true after
JP>   100. Less than 100, numbers are additive

JP>   ie MCMLXXXXIX = 1999

JP>         M = 1000
JP>        CM =  900  (1000-100)
JP>     LXXXX =   90  (50+10+10+10+10)
JP>        IX =    9  (X-1)
JP>    ----------------
JP>  MCMLXXXXIX 1999


I don't think you can do LXXXX for 90, do XC instead. The same way yo
do IX for 9, instead of VIIII, right?

2000\01\21@112140 by Morded of Logris

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Hello James,

Thursday, Thursday, January 20, 2000, you wrote:

JP>  No, it's not legal.   Yes, silly rules apply.
JP>  I'm not sure what the exact wording of the rules
JP>  are right off hand, but it seem to me that you can
JP>  only (according to the rules) preface a given number
JP>  by the next lower order numbers.  ie..you can subtract
JP>  50 from 100 (LC) or you can subtract 10 from 100 (XC)
JP>  but you can't subtract 5 from 100 (VC) or 1 from 100
JP>  (IC).  You have to build Roman Numeral Numbers by order
JP>  of magnitude, but the rules are not the same as for
JP>  our decimal numbering system.  Also, I believe there are
JP>  symbols for numbers greater than 1000 (M), but I can't
JP>  recall what they are right off hand either.  Of course,
JP>  in my experience, the need for numbers greater than 1999
JP>  have not come into use until this year.  But I believe
JP>  that 2000 would be MM.  Does this help?

JP>                                        Regards,

JP>                                          Jim



JP> On Thu, 20 January 2000, John Pfaff wrote:

>>
>> Is it legal to write 1999 as MIM, or are there other silly rules that apply?
>>

Oh, yes, I now recall what I have forgotten. To be valid, (in the
substracting case), the preceding number must not only be lower than
the following, but it must be of the same rank. I
guess these "ranks" must be defined like this:

tens | hundreds | thousands
-----+----------+-------------
I    | X        | C
V    | L        | D
X    | C        | M

got it?

2000\01\21@152644 by jamesnewton

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Ok, folks, as fascinating as this subject may be, it's also way off topic.

Mark future (after this one <GRIN>) posts on this thread with an [OT] (not
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